Monday, September 29, 2025

Astorga

First things, we started late!  We usually aim to be walking 6:30, 7am at the latest.  We didn't wake up until 6:30!  We didn't get on the trail until almost 8am and that felt so very late. 
The "trail" they this section is mostly rock road, unfit for foot or vehicle yet we trudge thru loyaly listening to our feet and legs screaming.  But we did cross the old Roman in Hospital


Leaving town it was pretty clear on someone's opinion of the trail split choice. 

Go straight and take the official trail by the highway and you'll be sad. Take a right and take the scenic route and you'll be happy.  We took the scenic route and we were happy.

Futher down the trail I was hoping that the donativo ran by David was still in operation - IT WAS! 





It was open and run by volunteer friends and it was just as good as 10 years ago! 

After that it was a 1.5km walk to the Cruz

And our first peek at the mountains that hold Cruz de ferro


And the thirsty Pilgrim
 

Another 5k or so and we finally entered the city proper, meet some friends and found our lodging with nice big fluffy TOWELS!  Towels, I miss you almost as much as I miss my family!

A quick lunch, some laundry, and a visit to the Gaudi Palace


And calling it a night early so we can hit the trail early and get onto the actual climb early (I am beginning to see a trend there).

馃搳 Camino Stats – Mon Sept 29, 2025

Day: 26

Location: Astorga

Stage: Villavante → Astorga (~21 km)

Total walked: ~467 km

Remaining (per Wise Pilgrim): ~259 km

% complete: ~64%

Avg so far: ~18 km/day

Needed avg to finish by Oct 13: ~21 km/day


馃憠 Under 260 km left. You’re officially in the final third of the Camino.

Sunday, September 28, 2025

Back on the trail

I think the late night...  No wait, early morning partiers, yeah that sounds better.  Anyways, I think they had a wonderful time this morning.  See, they stayed up partying until someone around 4am, which is fine.  PILGRIMS rise and shine at 6am....  5:30am (nature calls when it calls).  Yeah, they didn't get much sleep afterwards 馃ぃ, hey what can I say?  FAFO

We walked thru a still very much asleep city until we got to the bus/taxi area, it was very full of people who had just finished a night of partying and we're taking taxis back home. I said before the Spanish love to party and I'll say it again - THEY LOVE TO PARTY!!!


So we got to Virgin del Camino and started down the alternate route...  You know, the BEAUTIFUL your, not straight and thru an industrial/commercial slog?...  I mean, well, the last 14km are almost perfectly straight but at least they are thru fields and have canals and the like vs car dealerships, manufacturing commercial, etc...  Yeah, NO PILGRIMS!!!!  Where did they all go?  Did they stay in LEON, go home, do the road route, ???  Don't know but only a handful of pilgrims - NICE - Seriously, our first not sold out albergue this trip. 




Our town is pretty small with a boring water tower unlike the one in the picture above


So yeah, very uneventful day, lots of walking alone along the scenic route. 

馃搳 Camino Stats – Sun Sept 28, 2025

Day: 25
Stage: Le贸n (bus skip to Virgen del Camino) → Villavante (~29 km including the skip start)

Cumulative walked: ~475 km
Remaining: ~295 km
% complete: ~62%
Avg so far (25 days total): ~19.0 km/day
Adjusted avg (24 walking days): ~19.8 km/day
Needed avg to finish by Oct 12: ~19.6 km/day ✅

Saturday, September 27, 2025

LEON ZERO DAY!

Not much to say.
Slept in late, this first time in.....   Well, a long time and certainly the first time on Camino. A quick breakfast at a local shop then some quick exploring to plan for tomorrow mornings return to the Camino...  WHAT A SMART MOVE IT IS! They are planning a huge party for tomorrow, parades, concerts, vendor tents, etc.  They party because they love to party...  They party so much that they have the special 18 wheelers that transform into giant stages complete with lighting, video screens, speaker systems, the whole nine yards. This big rig just pulls into town. Drops off the trailer few minutes later. The whole thing is expanded, powered on, and ready for the town to rock it out.  Boy do they party, 3:30am I got up for a bathroom run and it sounded like midday outside - Amazing!  


I swear, they must be following my Camino and planning parties for all the major, and even some of the minor towns. No matter where, I seem to be heading into a weekend somebody's having a party somewhere and it's usually close by.  (Mic static "Hurry up and get those stages up, he is almost in Burgos...  Get one setup next weekend in Leon just to be safe".  Molinaseca had daytime fireworks last time I came into town, they probably will have a stage setup for a party.

Anyways, later in the morning I started walking the Camino path thru town exploring the side alleys and the wonderful architecture of this city. 



 Found my way to the Basilica de San Isodoro and did the museum visit




Everywhere you look in Leon is wonderful architecture and so many small details for you to enjoy. 

Anyways, the afternoon was filled running around getting a few items ticked off our combined lists, including a 3km round trip walk to Decathlon for Charlton to restock a few things.  No tapas bar crawl today, light eating and early bed 
Check out the pictures and videos on the Facebook post, several parades they the city today and a big one planned for tomorrow morning.

馃搳 Camino Intermission – Sat Sept 27, 2025

Day: 24

Stage walked: ❌ Zero Camino mileage (rest day in Le贸n)
But: ~12 km roaming the city (cathedral, tapas alleys, parades, etc.)

Cumulative Camino walked (since SJPdP): ~446 km
Remaining to Santiago (~770 km): ~324 km
% complete: ~58%
Avg so far (counting 24 days): ~18.6 km/day
Adjusted avg (counting 23 walking days): ~19.4 km/day
Needed avg to finish by Oct 12: ~19.4 km/day ✅


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馃幁 Intermission Continues

Le贸n Cathedral glow 馃寛

Tapas + Barrio H煤medo crawl 馃嵎

Arroz con leche, Basque cheesecake, churros con chocolate ✅

Parades, pendones, drums & bagpipes 馃

A proper recharge before the mountains.



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馃毄 Curtain lifts again:
Tomorrow, Sun Sept 28 → walking resumes. Bus skip to Virgen del Camino, then west toward Astorga.

Friday, September 26, 2025

LEON!

There's a lot to go over so let's get started.
Lynne, Hwa, and I started the day of with breakfast at our hostel. After that we walked like only people that have been on the trail of over 3 weeks can walk... FAST!  For reference, people usually walk rate around 4 km an hour. We held a much higher Pace holding five and a half km an hour steady for the full 13 km to the next town. 
But during that walk, we came across and 80-year-old Italian gentleman who I would have sworn wasn't today 60!  In very broken languages we were able to discover that he was on his 30th Camino!

I FIGURED IT OUT, THE CAMINO IS THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH!!!

Later, we had quick and enjoyable breakfast and the three of us were back on the trail for the remaining 6 km to the next town which signified at the end of our mutual walking day.  On the way or of town we passed by a Camino institution - unfortunately not open yet for the day, Bar Elvis.  A place that openly supports graffiti both inside and out with a most unique proprietor.



Hwa is staying the night in Mancella de las Mulas, Lynne and I - following the advice of not only many guidebooks but pretty much everybody else, took transportation into Leon bypassing tomorrow's long slog into the city.

!!! CAMINO INTERMISSION !!!

https://youtu.be/s7vp9dnl0vg?si=iDPfcGkKPAaXhDA-

Leon is worth way more time than I'm going to give it, but I am taking one zero day tomorrow and maximizing every minute I have today. We were blessed with an Albergue literally just off the main cathedral square. A wonderfully modern Albergue with pod style beds in small security controlled rooms with climate control.  Linen sheets, comforter, TOWELS...  Seriously, this Albergue is going to spoil us now.

Charlton and I went on a short tapas bar crawl 



Seriously fun and good eats.  For those who don't know, you order a drink - You get a tapa!  You get up and scoot over to the next bar, rinse and repeat.
Later, for evening nibbles, Lynne joined us as we sought out the more rewarding tapas (not interested in bar mix, more Spanish tortillas, or a thin slice of sausage on a slab of bread - Bring on the good stuff.  For our final food item, the chocolate explosion.

During the late afternooni went into the Leon Cathedral and once again was welcomed by a Cathedral that was NOT there to worship the bishops and Cardinals like the Burgos cathedral.
The Leon Cathedral is beautiful, very airy and open.  It has not been expanded upon unnecessary time after time, it remains as built in a more pure state - actually, later modifications have been undone to restore the cathedral closer to it's original state. 

BURGOS : While architecturally beautiful is bit a house of worship, it is a museum and temple to the men who ruled the area. 

LEON : IS a house of worship and still active.

馃搳 Camino Intermission – Fri Sept 26, 2025

Day: 23

Stage walked: El Burgo Ranero → Mansilla de las Mulas (~19 km)
Then: Bus into Le贸n (not counted in walking total)
Cumulative walked: ~446 km
Remaining to Santiago (~770 km): ~324 km
% complete: ~58%
Avg so far: ~19.4 km/day
Needed avg to finish by Oct 13: ~19.4 km/day ✅

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馃幁 Intermission Time
Tomorrow, Sat Sept 27th = rest day in Le贸n.
No kilometers. No pack. Just:
Le贸n Cathedral stained glass glow 馃寛
Tapas in Barrio H煤medo & Rom谩ntico 馃嵎
Sweet treats (churros, ice cream) 馃崼
Recharge body + mind before the mountains.

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馃毄 The Play So Far

Act I: Body → aches, blisters, hills, broken in.

Act II: Mind → Meseta grind, halfway milestone, Le贸n reset.

Act III: Soul (coming soon) → Cruz de Ferro, Galicia’s green hills, Santiago.

Thursday, September 25, 2025

El Burgo Ranero

Today...


It was short
Simple
Easy...  Well except the Camino path hasn't been maintained in years, but still easy.
Interesting, we got to walk thru a water pumping project construction zone. 


We left late, stopped for a really good breakfast, and still arrived in town early... Of course as far a days go this is a short one but we didn't want to go from short to damn long - There is no happy medium. 



Tomorrow we walk to Mansilla de las Mulas and take transportation to Leon where we have a zero day planned for Saturday.

And now, a continuation of yesterday's ramblings:
So here’s the thing, everybody loves to paint the Camino like it’s this magical postcard world, right? You get the Instagram shots with the perfect stone bridge, vineyards in the background, scallop shells dangling from packs, pilgrims smiling like they’ve just unlocked enlightenment. Movies do it too — everyone walking together, laughing, sipping wine, life transformed. And yeah, there is some of that. But most of it? That’s the highlight reel. That’s not the day-to-day.

The reality is blisters that feel like hot knives, feet that don’t want to take another step, sun that beats down on you in the Meseta until you start counting every telephone pole just to know you’re moving forward. You walk into a town and the last bed is gone. Boom. Now you’re walking another 5 km when your legs are already screaming. Showers that are basically dribbles, snorers that could rattle the roof off, laundry that never dries. And the routine — wake up, walk, shower, laundry, food, reset the pack, sleep. Over and over and over.

And the surprises? Not always good ones. Like when you confirm an albergue, feel good knowing you’ve got a bed, only to roll into town and find the hospitalero closed up yesterday for winter. No note, no warning, just gone. And now you’re dragging yourself, or worse, your kids, to the next town whether you’ve got the legs for it or not.

But — and here’s the important part — the Camino does have magic. It just isn’t free. That KAS Lim贸n I keep talking about? It’s not magical soda. It’s the fact that you’ve earned it after walking 25 km in the heat. That pilgrim blessing in the chapel? It hits harder because your body’s worn out and somehow you’re still standing there in the moment. Running into Charlton again after days apart, or catching Hwa on the road like no time passed — that’s not luck, that’s the Camino giving you what you didn’t know you needed.

So why do I love it? Why, with all the slog and sweat and blisters, is it still under my skin like some itch I can’t stop scratching? Because life is simple out here. My entire world fits in a pack. I don’t need to juggle twenty things. It’s wake, walk, eat, sleep. That’s it. And it feels right.

Because the grind makes everything sweeter. The bed is softer, the shower hotter, the little meal in the little town feels like a feast.

Because every single day resets. No matter how bad yesterday was — and trust me, there are bad days — you wake up, lace up, and start over.

Because the people and the history and the random “Camino provides” moments are like nothing else.

And because of the freedom. Back home it’s alarms and appointments and rushing around. Out here, you can pivot on a dime, change your plans mid-step, and it’s all okay. You’re exactly where you’re supposed to be, even if it wasn’t in the plan an hour ago.

So no, it’s not the romantic postcard version that keeps pulling me back. It’s the dirt and the sweat and the grind. It’s the stripped-down life that somehow feels more real than anything back home.

And yeah, it sounds horrible when I lay it out like that — blisters, snorers, long hot stretches with no shade. Doesn’t sound like anybody’s dream vacation. But here’s the truth: it’s one of the most freeing and addictive things you can do in your life. And that’s why I keep coming back.


馃搳 Camino Stats – Thu Sept 25, 2025

Day: 22

Location: El Burgo Ranero

Distance today: ~19.5 km (Sahag煤n → El Burgo Ranero)

Cumulative walked: ~427 km

Remaining to Santiago (~770 km): ~343 km

% complete: ~55%

Avg so far: ~19.4 km/day

Needed avg to finish by Oct 13: ~19.6 km/day ✅

Wednesday, September 24, 2025

All these Halfway Points!

So there's no less than three halfway points:

• There is the halfway point mileage-wise on the trail that we passed unceremoniously yesterday leaving the next-to-last town. The exact point is pretty hard to pin down as the trail is an organic system and constantly undergoing little changes. So what may be the halfway point mileage-wise today may not be that tomorrow.

• There is today's geographical halfway point which is much less likely to change over time as it is the halfway point between Roncesvalles and Santiago de Compostela.

• And finally, there is the symbolic halfway point which is Sahag煤n and that's probably the most celebrated of the three as you can get a halfway certificate which goes back many, many years when people too sick to continue could at least turn around here.


Which actually turned into a real-life example. One pilgrim barely managed to get to the albergue. Her left leg was not functioning. An ambulance picked her up and brought her to the Le贸n hospital for care.

So yeah, it doesn't matter which one of the three you want to go by, we've passed them all.

Yesterday's walk was probably the straightest walk of the entire Camino. Today we had the pleasure of some very gently rolling hills and several little hamlets to dart in and out of. There is a bit of a slog on the approach to Sahag煤n, but it is also where you pass the geographical halfway point on the city's outskirts.

Tonight's lodging is a monastery. A little sparse but very clean and with surprisingly modern facilities.

So I'm going to take a minute to talk about one of the dynamics that makes walking the Camino special. My sister Lynne and I decided to walk up to the monastery to get our halfway certificate. Standing in line, who did I see in front of me but my good friend Charlton Slack from Wales. I know anyone following my blog knows that Charlton and I are meeting in Santiago on the 13th but are not necessarily walking together. For the past week, our paths had taken us apart and just like that our paths were back together again. So there's a saying: the Camino provides. That was one example of it.

Another dynamic about the Camino that makes it so special is the absolute spontaneity you are allowed. Charlton and I did the museum tour, decided to attend the 6:30 pilgrim blessing and while we waited, hung out in one of the local bars and had a pilgrim's favorite beverage — KAS Lim贸n. As the time got closer, we moved on to the chapel and attended the blessing. In your day-to-day lives, things are too structured, too rigid. Out here, you can pivot on a dime, completely change your plans and just roll with it because wherever you are is where you are and you need to be no other place other than in your hostel by door close.

Earlier in the day was another example of an interesting dynamic. I had brought our clothes to a laundromat for drying and I saw my Chinese American friend Hwa walking down the road. We were able to catch up and have a great chat before each of us had to go our separate ways. I told him about the pilgrim blessing and he was able to attend as well.

So there's been a lot of discussion amongst many people on and off the trail about the Camino and what it is. I found this:

馃毝‍♂️ What Walking the Camino Is

A pilgrimage first — spiritual, cultural, historic.

A long-distance trek — ~800 km on the Franc茅s, stage by stage.

Self-carried — everything in your backpack: clothes, gear, meds, but no tent (you sleep in albergues, hostels, inns).

Between hiking & backpacking — heavier than a day hike, lighter than wilderness backpacking (since food/bed is found each day).

A lifestyle on foot — wake up, pack, walk 20–25 km, eat, sleep, repeat.


馃ゾ Best way to define it:
“Walking the Camino is long-distance, self-supported trekking with a cultural and spiritual core — a pilgrimage where your pack holds your life, but roofs and meals come each night from the trail.”

And to make a good comparison where the Camino sits in the walking ranking system:

馃ゾ Physical Demands of Walking the Camino (ranked)

1. Day hike → lightest, small pack, out & back.


2. Multi-day hut trek → moderate pack, food + some gear, roof provided.


3. Camino → 馃毄 right here. Daily 20–30 km with a ~7–10 kg pack, repetitive stress on feet/legs/back. Lighter than wild backpacking, harder than casual hiking.


4. Full backpacking → tents, stoves, food for days, heavier loads.


5. Expedition trekking → high altitude, extreme loads, survival gear.



馃憠 Camino = middle tier: endurance challenge, not survival.

I hope that helps people get an idea what the Camino is, what it is not. One thing I do want to add is everything about the Camino always shows the highlights and never shows the day-in and day-out grind of walking to get someplace. A hot afternoon slog through the harvested fields with a long steep hill and not a cloud in sight. A telephone pole with a cross on top surrounded by a pile of rocks — it takes over a day of climbing to get there. The beautiful little village and a valley on the Meseta — that's after a four-hour slog with barely any corners.

So I guess one of the questions that comes up is, if it's so hard, why do it? And the answer is we do it because it is hard, but the rewards are greater. We do it because it is life simplified to its core needs without any of the noise. Get up in the morning, hopefully there's some breakfast. If not, maybe there's a place in town. If there's no place in town then you wait till the next town and rinse and repeat.

Some days are a short walk. Some days are a long walk. Some days you get to town and you get the last bed. Some days you get to town and find out you have to walk to the next town to get a bed. Some days, as in the case of a family we keep bumping into, you get to a town where you have verified your reservation only to find that the guy closed up shop the day before for the winter even after verifying your reservation — and now you have to walk with your tired kids on an extra-long journey to the next town.

When you finally find lodging for the night, the first thing you want to do is usually shower. After showering, usually your next priority is to take care of your laundry. Then you reset your pack for the next day before seeking out food. Sometimes there's a little bit of extra time in the day to go visit a particular site in town, some days you're spending your time reaching out to family back at home. Some days you are just so wrapped up with other pilgrims in the moment right then and there that time just flies. If you're like me, you try and squeeze in a little bit of time to get your daily diary done and then it is usually an early bedtime to start all over the next day.

Sounds horrible, doesn’t it? It's not! It is one of the most freeing and liberating things you can do in your adult life. And quite frankly, it's addicting.

And with that I'm calling it a night.


Tuesday, September 23, 2025

The mathematical HALFWAY POINT

Today, we crossed the mathematical halfway point of our journey.  Tomorrow, Sahagun, the symbolic halfway location and we can get a certificate.  Feels like I just started, but here I am, past the midpoint and metaphorically walking out of the woods now.  I know so many first time walkers are feeling like their adventure has been going on forever and here I am screaming into the void "BUT I JUST STARTED!!!"...  But like so things in life, the first time is scary and as such time seems to stretch, but afterwards you feel comfortable and time seems to pass quicker - No, I'm not pondering current scientific theories on time-dilation and speed -YET!  Who knows, tomorrow's walk may be very meditative and allow for some internal pondering of the greater mysteries of the universe.  What I am currently interested in is how this whole journey just doesn't seem so big.  500 miles, yeah, so...  I know it IS a big journey, but the metaphorical elephant is smaller and the bites larger.  Experience and confidence give me a better perspective and frankly I am accused of being TOO calm!  If only I could bottle this Zen and uncork it for my commutes.
Walking along the 17km slog today, the section anticipated and dreaded by so many.  I just found myself doing neither, it was simply another section that needed to be traversed. But it did get me thinking, Metaphorically that section is like so many challenges in life, things that just be addressed, take time and energy, but once tackled do actually resolve.  In my case, 17+km of walking with my pack and I can say "Resolved".
Speaking of that, 17 km slog, calling in a slog is now hard. The original pop-up bar, I believe is gone, to be replaced by two food trucks and a semi-permanent installation.  Unfortunately, they're all located in the first half of the slog. Amazingly, in the last corner of the slog they are building a full-on Pilgrim rest area. Complete with an overlook that you can climb up and get a bird's eye view of the meseta. 


Another thing worth noting. Now that we are clear of the hills for a while, not that the meseta doesn't have its own little ups and downs, there is less overall physical pain. Pain. However, being shy of 3 weeks into the journey, a lot of people are starting to exhibit another round of foot issues. Feet are starting to complain that the constant meeting they have been receiving and blisters are reappearing. I have been very fortunate me and both of my feet have have been cooperative. Some of that is experience and knowledge, some of that is feet that have already been beat up and hardened - apparently they just don't care 馃ぃ. But it is worth noting that the act of walking has moved from a very conscious act into a very automatic mechanical system. Lot of people are not thinking about the act of walking anymore. It just happens. They're not scanning, at least consciously, the trail ahead, the brain is doing that for them - Subconsciously.
One more thing for everyone to ponder. Like so many words in so many languages, words or simple phrases can have extreme power. The phrase "Buen Camino" can cover so many different topics. It is, as almost always, a polite way of greeting a fellow pilgrim. It's also a nice way of hollering down the trail saying "Buen Camino" to the group of people standing in a circle blocking the path which is a polite way of telling them to make a hole and I'm coming through. I've also seen it used by frustrated proprietors waving people away with the wave of a hand while saying "Buen Camino".

馃専 HALFWAY CAMINO STATS – Tue Sept 23, 2025 馃専

Day: 20

Location: Ledigos

Distance today: ~23.2 km (Carri贸n → Ledigos)

Cumulative walked: ~391 km

Remaining to Santiago (~770 km): ~379 km

% complete: 50.8% — HALFWAY! 馃毄

Avg so far: ~19.6 km/day

Needed avg to finish by Oct 13: ~19.5 km/day ✅

Milestone: Crossed the mathematical halfway point of the Camino Franc茅s. Symbolic halfway (Sahag煤n + certificate) comes tomorrow.

Monday, September 22, 2025

Who turned of the heat?!?!?!

Today, not much to say.  We for up at almost freezing o'clock on our albergue...  Well, actually I do have something to say, nice Albergue, lift style above the hotel rooms, 21 new beds our choice.  The hotel and albergue are run by a family, the mother and father run the kitchen.  Jesus was the waiter in the bar/restaurant, and Edwardo..  he singlehandedly ran the lodging operations and lobby bar and managed both the pilgrims and locals.  Trulya very personable character with a lot of positive energy and a perpetual smile...
So, yeah, almost freezing O'Clock departure (41°f) the masses departed in the pitch black to walk the canal route into Fromista, which was delightfully lit up by the sun as we approached and crossed the dam 


We then had our breakfast at a wonderful little bar, stumbled into several other pilgrims in out growing Camino family and eventually set out on the road to Carrion de los Condes taking the senic route and adding 800 meters, but, oh so worth it.  Walk besides a road or a river....  The road loses and we found that the river route was recently enhanced and now literally follows the river the entire distance. 

We dragged ourselves into Villalcasar del sirga and enjoyed the company of two very determined honey bees hell bent on our salads.

Then, the fun preview came, 6km, no corners, just following a road to our end City.  Neither of us had happy feet, but a quick visit to the local farm脿ci got the supplies to make then happy (till tomorrow).

So, yeah nothing special to note, no deep thoughts to share, just a long day of walking and running around town on a Monday trying to find SOMETHING open...  Boadillas it was.. twice even and packed for tomorrow's slog...  They get are off the menu for me now. 

So, that's all, long, non-special day done.


Sunday, September 21, 2025

No deep thoughts

Today, no pondering the mysteries of the universe.  Just walking, good walking, but walking none-the-less.
The morning started out right off climbing the Meseta ridge, scooting the top and dropping off the back and have it in our rear view for what seemed forever before submitting a small hill and learning it behind finally






We cleared the days section in record time and checked into our albergue for the day.  When we went for lunch we ended up having a pilgrim gathering without trying, it just happened organically.

And afterwards a chance to view the church as there were closing the doors. 


Simple day. 

Camino status :
Day: 18
Location: Boadilla del Camino
Distance today: 19.3 km (Castrojeriz → Boadilla)
Cumulative walked: ~344 km
Remaining to Santiago (~770 km): ~426 km
% complete: ~45%
Avg so far: ~19.1 km/day
Needed avg to finish by Oct 13: ~19.8 km/day ✅






But wait, there is a little more...

That Evil movie production company...  They are filming in the albergue albergue, so only party of the famous gardens are available...  I swear, they block Cruz de Ferro, their gear is going off the mountain...   Luckily, it sounds like they depart soon for Molinaseca.

An Italian movie
A comedy
On the Camino...

I'm trying to find peace in my heart with this, not doing a good job so far.